-4
\$\begingroup\$

Create a quine that cannot be golfed. Your score is your byte count, where higher is better. If someone finds a shorter version, their score is your original byte count, and you lose points

Scoring example:

original submission, 34 bytes // score is 34

function(this){self.printquine();}

golfed, 31 bytes // score is 34, original submission is scored 31

function(this){_.printquine();}

golfed again by someone else, 18 bytes // score is 31, first golfed submission is scored 18

this.printquine();

Here "golfing" is defined as creating a shorter version of someone else's source file exclusively by removing characters or rearranging existing characters (without affecting its quine-ness). This seems like a good way to define it because otherwise googling the shortest quine in a given language would be the only reasonable starting point.

Standard loopholes apply, unless you have a creative use of one then go for it. Use this site's definition of a valid quine, if you can actually find one that's agreed on.

\$\endgroup\$

closed as unclear what you're asking by Embodiment of Ignorance, fəˈnɛtɪk, AdmBorkBork, Giuseppe, mbomb007 Aug 2 at 18:14

Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ Could someone that thinks this is unclear please say what they think is unclear? \$\endgroup\$ – Wheat Wizard Aug 2 at 14:31
  • 3
    \$\begingroup\$ I can't speak for others, but I voted this as unclear for two reasons -- the first is regarding "chain" scoring. Say that A scores 100, but then B comes and golfs it down to 95, thus B scores 100. Then C comes along and golfs it further down to 90. Does C score 95 or 100? /// The second is the second-to-last sentence. Opening up standard loopholes is almost always a recipe for disaster. \$\endgroup\$ – AdmBorkBork Aug 2 at 15:24
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ @AdmBorkBork Those seem like bad choices rather than sources of unclarity. \$\endgroup\$ – Wheat Wizard Aug 2 at 15:25
  • 6
    \$\begingroup\$ this might be better as a cops-and-robbers challenge, but with no "safe" time frame? This is why we have a sandbox: to improve challenges so they don't get downvoted / closed. \$\endgroup\$ – Giuseppe Aug 2 at 17:20
  • 2
    \$\begingroup\$ I'm actually voting to close as off-topic, because: Standard loopholes apply, unless you have a creative use of one then go for it, which means that there are basically no rules, and this thus has no objective winning criterion. I think the core of the challenge is an interesting play on the "golf" idea and the scoring has potential, but it needs refinement before it fits our standards. \$\endgroup\$ – Giuseppe Aug 2 at 17:29
2
\$\begingroup\$

HQ9+, 1 byte

I guess I'm not winning any points for creativity.

Q
\$\endgroup\$
  • 2
    \$\begingroup\$ I don't think this fits our standard rules of what makes a quine, as outlined in the bottom paragraph of the challenge. \$\endgroup\$ – AdmBorkBork Aug 2 at 17:17
  • \$\begingroup\$ ok but [HQ9+], 0 bytes checkmate \$\endgroup\$ – Kenneth Taylor Aug 2 at 17:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KennethTaylor my quine is longer, therefore I still win \$\endgroup\$ – Krzysztof Szewczyk Aug 2 at 18:17
  • \$\begingroup\$ That's not how the scoring works... \$\endgroup\$ – Jo King Aug 3 at 3:58

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.