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"Hello World"... without letters!

We've already had Hello World with alphanumerics only, so why not write one without letters?

Your task is simple: write a program which prints Hello, World! (followed by a new line) to standard output, and does not contain letters in its source code.

You may use another suitable output method, if and only if your language does not support standard output.

Your program may not contain any of

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

in any part of its source code. (Sorry, C/C++/Java...).

You must write a complete program, not just a snippet.

Standard loopholes are banned, as usual. Of course, you can hard-code the output, as long as your format for doing so doesn't use letters!

Scoring

This is , so you get one point per byte of source code, and the lowest score wins.

You get a bonus of -300 for not using the digits 0123456789.

However, you get a penalty of +350 for using languages which don't use letters, like Brainfuck or Whitespace.

Brainfuck, JSFuck and other languages which use 16 characters or fewer are scored as 0.5 bytes per character.

Languages which use 4 characters or fewer (e.g. Whitespace) are scored as 0.25 per character.


Good luck! I will upload my solution after a few others have appeared.

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marked as duplicate by Peter Taylor, Kyle Kanos, squeamish ossifrage, durron597, Tony H. May 19 at 16:41

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Hmmm, if only I knew how to write in Piet... –  Tal May 19 at 14:07
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JSFuck is not a language per se. It's a subset of Javascript. –  Jan Dvorak May 19 at 14:11
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@Tal you don't write in Piet. You paint in Piet. –  Jan Dvorak May 19 at 14:11
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I am disappointed that you chose to ignore the pointers you were given in the sandbox to multiple questions which this effectively duplicates. –  Peter Taylor May 19 at 14:32

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CJam - 59-300 = -241

'@))))))))'`)))))_)))))))__)))_", "'[((((@__)))\((('`))))'!

Try it online at http://cjam.aditsu.net/

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GolfScript - 37

72 101.7+.111", "87 111.3+.6-.8-]"!"+

Assumes there's nothing in the standard input

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+1 Our code was identical! As they say, alike minds think great. –  rangu May 19 at 13:58
    
If you assume that there's nothing in stdin, you get an empty string for free, and can extract it from the array with (. (There are also different approaches which save more than one char; the obvious one is a string of characters in the upper half of ISO-8859-1 to which you apply {~}%, but that's been done before in the questions which this duplicates). –  Peter Taylor May 19 at 14:31
    
@PeterTaylor The first one probably doesn't work anymore since I moved the exclamation mark. I don't really understand the second trick. –  aditsu May 19 at 14:38
    
A string is an array of integers (ISO-8859-1 codepoints) for many purposes; in particular, you can lift a block over it with % in the same way that you can lift it over an array. ~ on an integer is bitwise negate. You can see how it works with "Foo"{~}%.puts{~}% –  Peter Taylor May 19 at 14:41
    
@PeterTaylor Ooh to avoid letters (and digits), I see, thanks.. I'd say post an answer, but I guess you're rather trying to bring this question down as a duplicate :p –  aditsu May 19 at 14:43

Javascript, 18811 - 300 = 18511

Just for the heck of it.

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how!?!?!?!?!?!? –  Fabricio May 19 at 15:45
    
@Fabricio jsfuck.com –  professorfish May 20 at 13:32
    
I'm afraid this doesn't have a comma in it... ;) –  professorfish May 20 at 13:33
    
It can have a comma, if you want to. –  Stefan Gruenwald Aug 4 at 7:20

J - 58 char

(_2".\'40697676791200557982766801'){32}.".'.',~{.>{.9!:8''

J has a primitive called a., which is a list of all the ASCII characters. All useful stuff related to going between character literals and their ASCII codepoints goes though this primitive, so not being able to use it is kind of a pain.

What we do is bootstrap the string a. out of the built in list of error messages (9!:8''). We steal an a—luckily it's the first character of the first error message ("attention interrupt")—and append to it a period character. Then we execute this as a J sentence (".), and the result is our desired a. array.

Finally, we lop off the first 32 characters, so the space is now char 0 in the array, and then select the characters we want, by splitting a string of digits into a list of 2-digit numbers. This is saves a few characters over just using 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 87 111 114 108 100 33{.

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and maybe I should learn J as well as GolfScript –  professorfish May 20 at 13:37

Whitespace, 210*0.25 -300 +350 = 102.5

Hex dump generated by xxd.

0000000: 2020 2009 2020 0920 2020 0a09 0a20 2020     .  .   ...   
0000010: 2020 0909 2020 0920 090a 090a 2020 2020    ..  . ....    
0000020: 2009 0920 0909 2020 0a09 0a20 2020 2020   .. ..  ...     
0000030: 0909 2009 0920 200a 090a 2020 2020 2009  .. ..  ...     .
0000040: 0920 0909 0909 0a09 0a20 2020 2020 0920  . .......     . 
0000050: 0909 2020 0a09 0a20 2020 2020 0920 2020  ..  ...     .   
0000060: 2020 0a09 0a20 2020 2020 0909 0920 0909    ...     ... ..
0000070: 090a 090a 2020 2020 2009 0920 0909 0909  ....     .. ....
0000080: 0a09 0a20 2020 2020 0909 0920 2009 200a  ...     ...  . .
0000090: 090a 2020 2020 2009 0920 0909 2020 0a09  ..     .. ..  ..
00000a0: 0a20 2020 2020 0909 2020 0920 200a 090a  .     ..  .  ...
00000b0: 2020 2020 2009 2020 2020 090a 090a 2020       .    ....  
00000c0: 2020 2020 2009 2009 200a 090a 2020 0a0a       . . ...  ..
00000d0: 0a0a                                     ..

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just out of interest, how do I reverse that hexdump into the original source? I've tried echoing it to xxd -r but it doesn't seem to be working –  professorfish May 20 at 13:30
    
@professorfish I was using hexdump to generate my hexdump, but seems like there's something wrong with its output... I've edited to change it to an xxd dump, you should be able to xxd -r it now. –  ace May 20 at 15:02
    
First time I see a character other than space, tab or newline in a Whitespace program. –  nyuszika7h Jul 8 at 20:57

Brainfuck, 127*0.5 -300 +350 = 113.5

I'm sure this can be shortened, but I won't win anyway...

++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++++.------------.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
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Bash, 89

This is my own, extremely un-portable solution I prepared before posting the question. It isn't very good.

_2=($_1/*/*)
${_2[34]} -${_2[34]:5:1} '\110\145\154\154\157\54\40\127\157\162\154\144\41'

Explanation

The program essentially looks through the directory tree from /, taking the first item apart from /. and /.. (which, on my system and most others, is /bin), then takes the 35th entry in that directory (on my system, this is /bin/echo, the echo from coreutils as opposed to the builtin).

Variables in Bash may begin with underscores but not with numbers. The first line uses a blank variable (seems to be necessary for this) and the * symbol to create an array of everything in /bin.

The second line runs the 35th element in the array (Bash lets you use strings as calls to built-ins, external programs or functions), then uses the sixth character of /bin/echo to get to the -e option, then uses echo -e with a bunch of character codes to do the actual output.

Quite conveniently, unlike the echo built-in, /bin/echo does not seem to require a 0 before octal character codes (GNU coreutils 8.21, GNU Bash 4.3.11, Ubuntu 14.04).

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If /.. is /bin on your system, then something is really broken. –  nyuszika7h Jul 8 at 20:58

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